Posted in ramblings by arushigarglko on September 19, 2008

Just a few rambling thoughts….

Taking the cue from a conversation Malavika and I had a little while back…at the risk of sounding a little frivolous I will approach something that may not have strict political or economic repursussions 😀

Just wondering about how indefinite the whole concept of patriotism is. Blasphemous as this may sound I don’t feel particular patriotic fervour every time I think of my country.

I don’t see the point of feeling proud of our culture or art or brilliance. Would all the great artists of this land not have flourished approximately as much in other countries? Wouldn’t most of us have felt just about as patriotic (or not) irrespective of where we’d been born?

I’m not saying I don’t want to contribute and I don’t want to make a change. But it’s not because I think the country needs me. Or anyone. I think people need each other and when you look at the larger picture it’s hard to say that where you belong has any consideration.

And if you want an instance closer home (yes, I think most of us have come to think of NALSAR as home away from home 🙂 ) I don’t see why people from one region flock to others from the same. A common ground? An acceptable excuse then….and nothing more.

An analogy can be drawn with religion to some extent. And (no offense to anyone whatsoever….I know for a fact that this may end up very controversial….but I’ve always thought that religion is a strictly personal affair…so i’ll just say its a personal perspective and I’d like to believe that everyone can respect that perspective….like our enlightened teachers keep reminding us: “Let us agree to disagree”) I think the blindness pervades into religion.

And a lot many things. But that again, is a never ending story.

Not cynical superciliousness, just an observation.

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  1. blabberingbeembo said, on September 24, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    In fact, I find it funny that an emotion as ‘strong’ as patriotism is based on something as random as the roll of die.
    You could have just as easily been born in any of the other countries of the world.
    Or maybe, that is the reason for the feeling of belonging.

  2. Mika said, on September 25, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    What’s funnier is this patriotism bordering on jingoism in some cases. We were at this multiplex once, and the national anthem was played before the start of the movie. The sensibilities act and most of the audience stands. This one man was very perturbed by a coupla teenagers sitting around and went up to them and asked them to stand.

    Respect for the national anthem is not something that can be forced/coerced out of someone, least of all a buncha kids there to watch a movie.

    But in response to Arushi, I suppose it’s that feeling of belonging itself that wields itself as patriotism . To me, it’s far more patriotic to just live and earn in India, rather than move to, say the US and feed its economy.

  3. Arushi said, on September 25, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    oh yes, but I’m not even questioning the manifestation of patriotism. my question is more fundamental. i’m questioning the validity of the concept itself. a littl extremists, but i’ve wondered about it long enough without being able to see the sense of it 🙂

  4. gautam said, on September 28, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    i cannot help pitying you for a skewed idea of all that is patriotism such as yours; ordinarily i would shut up and… for now, you cannot equate the concept with your contribution to the country or your capacity to change it.
    liking it – absolutely no doubt that you do- should be the best it can get.

  5. blabberingbeembo said, on September 29, 2008 at 2:20 am

    Here we see another form of patriotism, not for a country, but for one’s ideas.
    And this patriotism towards oneself and one’s thought can go to such an extent that other opinions seem ‘skewed’.
    Is there a rationale behind it? Not for me.
    But does it exist? Going by the evidence, yes.

    Clearly, someone’s patriotism could be my extremism and vice versa.
    Who is to decide what’s ‘best’?
    Let it be.

  6. gautam said, on September 30, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    what you mean by “patriotism for one’s ideas”;
    patriotism is liking your country; im quite positive you are not capable of contending that.

  7. blabberingbeembo said, on September 30, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Why comprehend the word, or more appropriately, the notion of patriotism as narrowly as that?

    Take it as an abstraction of the concept, if you will.

  8. sapnaraheem said, on October 2, 2008 at 12:25 am

    er..i think ya i agree wid giving patriotism a wider meaning; which could encompass one’s sensitiveness towards something they consider dear to them, so that means one can be patriotic towards one’s ideas too…as for the post,see to be a patriot, i dont think its necessary for u to feel proud about everythin from art to the basic “way of living,….u become one,wen u start appreciating and recognise the indianess even in the minutest details of the things that happen around us…

  9. Arushi said, on October 2, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    @ sapna
    correct me if i’m wrong– but just an appreciation of the indianness for you qualifies as patriotism?
    (this is not meant to be confrontational!)
    from what i can make out, everyone just has a perception of the concept itself, i think we can let it rest at that.
    what i meant is when you say that you are proud to be an Indian, its like saying you are proud to be a Brahmin or a Kshatriya. you know? in both cases, you haven’t really done anythin to be what you are. it just happened that way.
    clash of perspectives here…..maybe. but i thought i’d voice mine anyway.

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